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How is the VM3s thermal stability in Z axis? I've heard with the finer pitch ball screws that it varies as much as .007" from cold to warm...

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Lots of potential for cosine error to become relevant here with the mounting method. Probe calibration also going to play a significant role.

Always loved this idea -- as soon as we saw you doing this a few years back we bought one of those Amazon motorized winches so ours has a little pendant to move up and down.

First, I admire and respect your accomplishments, your a smart cookie. This is just factual info that may or may not be applicable depending on your level of accuracy. Even leaning against the machine's front will move your machines tram because of the way the sheet metal is attached, i have many NC's a few different brands. Don't believe me , put a tenths indicator from spindle to table or vise and watch the needle move as you put your weight leaning against the front of the machine. Hanging over 200 lbs from the sheet metal may be moving your machine out of TRAM. Just info.

Inspiring. Bravo for paying it forward to the youth.

I have facility in Poland. I have 8 Haas mills 1xc TM-1 (2006) 4x VF2 1x VF3 1x VF6 1x UMC-750 (2023). UMC-750 we installed in May 2023. Since installation June 2023 we had 21 UMC failures with repairs by Haas service. No more Haas in my facility.

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very good job Mr Pierson

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Have you noticed any weight shift for the machine and need to re calibrate probe when the rotary is mounted or not mounted?

Its one thing hanging it in there but using the PPS too is just next level

Fantastic video. This is a great and simple solution.

This is exactly what i have been looking to do with my HRT210SS.

What size is that rotary table?

im purchasing an EC 400 soon. Will I be able to find work?

Hey, very nice video. Could do you a Video of Programming multiple fixture on Fusion 360?

Jay, I am curious what your approach is when you are trying to sell your own product through your own website but are regularly contacted by distributors that are asking for supplier info such as W9, accounting and customer service contacts, etc. To me, this seems like unnecessary hoops to jump through for a simple online retail sale. But have you found success pursuing the distributor route for your products? I would like to avoid using them but at the same time, a sale is a sale? Thanks for any feedback. Really appreciate these videos!

The fact that these machines have "accuracy and stability" zones is quite crazy

I wonder how this work flow compares to the doosan lathe. I would of those a bar fed lather would be walk away from the machine for as long as the bar feeder can be.

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John spent 67 minutes watching RUclips videos while the part was running.

Most of our parts are round, so always interested in different ways to hold round parts. How does this compare to the SMX output? Considering getting a Doosan MX for it's versatility.

I love my RotoVise. I make way more parts on it than I thought I would when I originally bought it. If you have a 4th axis rotary this is a must have.

Do you recommend steel threaded inserts in the pallet to improve thread life for the clamps? Or do you screw the Mitee Bites directly to the aluminum pallet?

I guess my biggest question, is why are you making this from round stock? If you used flat bar, cut to length with some excess, this would be a 2 operation mill part. Maybe I'm not seeing a feature but it looks like something that you could run from square stock...

Jay, Glad to see you putting out videos again! One topic that would be great to get your perspective on is the offline management of chips/coolant in your shop. Specifically relating to cleanliness of working with offline pallets. We are trying to think of clever ways to keep our pallet unload/load process as quick and clean as possible. We have some ideas, and are already using chip fans in the machines, but would love to hear from you on this as well.

Awsome pallet. Do you have any videos on how to model a pallets in fusion? I've been wanting to get your products but modeling has been holding me back. Thanks for all good vids.

as always look forward to your clips, just a small growing business here trying to evolve cheers guys

. Those clamps put a lot of horizontal load and can move the horizontal x/y location around quite a bit. My recommendation to buyers is don’t be cheap and get the smallest/thinnest pallet you can. Yes it’s cheaper and lighter. But an extra bit of meat goes a long way. My first pallet experience I wish I had had an extra 0.5 or more heck 2”more width to resist the force of these clamps. Placing a part 1” sunk in and 1” above the pallet for op2 I could yaw the part rotationally with low clamping force as the pallet wall bowed. Keep it in mind! (My design fault, not a Pierson fault, their mini pallet product worked flawlessly! ) I left 0.5” of wall as a support and it was not nearly enough. Leave some meat, you can always remove it later if the pallet is to heavy! Thanks again for the vids/great products Jhon!

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i do love DMG machines. but I never would have ran one if it wasn't for Haas. In many ways they just cant be beat.

I have some pallets than run an op1 of 48 small stainless steel parts, each of which has 5 precision bores, and it runs for 2.5 hours. Op2 is on another pallet, 24 parts at a time and requires 20 minutes. I’m at the machine less than once an hour. PPS all the way!

You can't just figure cycle time you also have to factor in unloading and loading the parts either in the machine vise or on a pallet. My guess is the pallet system is overall faster per part making it even a better outcome.

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i think you can get the exanding clamps same size but longer so you'd get more surface area but no row losses

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Great stuff. But I cant get parts with qty's over 2-4. I dont know where everyone else seems to get volume work> Doesnt seem to exist in MA

What about making a pallet out of 7075 Aluminum? Would that reduce flex? Another big item that you didn’t mention in your machining times was how long did it take to load two round bars in your vice per op vs loading a single pallet. Quite a bit of time savings there also. Being able to walk away from the machine for a good amount of time is valuable. I hate 3 to 8 min short cycle times on my 4th axis. Can’t walk away and do anything and keep the machine running.

good video Mr ,Pierson,,thanks for your time

Nice fixture there! Idea for the "knive makers method" in the second op: Why don't you make a second op fixture plate similar to your current one, but with the exact same part positions as on the first op. Then you could leave your OP10 parts clamped while you put the empty second op fixture on top. Then screw all the parts in from the top into the finished threads without having to hold the plate and fiddling around the workpiece and screws from two sides. Since the position of the parts is still given by the OP10 fixture this should be a lot easier. Calling it the "contact grill method" :D

I highly recommend the podcast, been listening it from first episode, and i really makes my Mondays!

Can you explain how that is actually a better way to make these than on your lathe? With the lathe you get unattended runtime of (however many parts fit into a bar) * (how many bars are loaded in the feeder). I would guess that adds up to a lot more than fit on the fixture. You are also not spending 5-10 minutes of manual labor loading/unloading parts, not to mention the strain on operators of handling loaded pallets. The biggest benefit for quality would be making a complete part every cycle. You would be able to observe and mitigate issues such as wear or broken tools before they cause parts to go out of spec. In the case of the pallet you have the potential to end up with a fully loaded pallet of bad parts PLUS a lost hour of runtime. Obviously some nuances in how the lathe runs, and maybe its not profitable to run those ¢ types of parts on that kind of $$$ machine

I am pretty sure that this channel is the only one on RUclips that I have watched EVERY single video because there is always so much great info and inspiration for the shop.

6:48 my dumbass heard boeing lmao

props to your Worker

Please make the podcast available on RUclips.

Excellent food for thought Jay.

Nice to see you again Jay. I always like it when you young Bucks come up with great ideas. Well done video. Give John a big “pat on the back”. How do We access this new platform?